Re: kill -KILL: What happens?

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org>
Cc: Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, PG Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: kill -KILL: What happens?
Date: 2011-01-15 12:12:10
Message-ID: AANLkTinL3zzQPm7wt3gxT5mZ4jajFDLf7kwiaJcLwJ1-@mail.gmail.com
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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org> wrote:
> On Jan14, 2011, at 17:45 , Robert Haas wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Florian Pflug <fgp(at)phlo(dot)org> wrote:
>>> I gather that the behaviour we want is for normal backends to exit
>>> once the postmaster is gone, and for utility processes (bgwriter, ...)
>>> to exit once all the backends are gone.
>>>
>>> The test program I posted in this thread proves that FIFOs and select()
>>> can be used to implement this, if we're ready to check for EOF on the
>>> socket in CHECK_FOR_INTERRUPTS() every few seconds. Is this a viable
>>> route to take?
>>
>> I don't think there's much point in getting excited about the order in
>> which things exit.  If we're agreed (and we seem to be, modulo Tom)
>> that the backends should exit quickly if the postmaster dies, then
>> worrying about whether the utility processes exit slightly before or
>> slightly after that doesn't excite me very much.
>
> Tom seems to think that as our utility processes gain importance, one day
> we might require one to outlive all the backends, and that whatever solution
> we adopt should allow us to arrange for that. Or at least this how I
> understood him.

Well, there's certainly ONE of those already: the logging collector.
But it already has its own solution to this problem.

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Robert Haas
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