From: | marcin mank <marcin(dot)mank(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Allowing multiple concurrent base backups |
Date: | 2011-01-12 09:26:05 |
Message-ID: | AANLkTi=aGuJT0ktUv55qrTWDcX=HaQrLkb+qHd_3n0_R@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> writes:
>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 19:51, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>> Seems like either one of these is fairly problematic in that you have to
>>> have some monstrous kluge to get the backup_label file to appear with
>>> the right name in the tarfile. How badly do we actually need this?
>>> I don't think the use-case for concurrent base backups is all that large
>>> in practice given the I/O hit it's going to involve.
>
>> I think it can be done cleaner in the tar file injection - I've been
>> chatting with Heikki offlist about that. Not sure, but I have a
>> feeling it does.
>
> One point that I'm particularly interested to see how you'll kluge it
> is ensuring that the tarball contains only the desired temp data and not
> also the "real" $PGDATA/backup_label, should there be a normal base
> backup being done concurrently with the streamed one.
>
> The whole thing just seems too fragile and dangerous to be worth dealing
> with given that actual usage will be a corner case. *I* sure wouldn't
> trust it to work when the chips were down.
>
Maybe if pg_start_backup() notices that there is another backup
running should block waiting for another session to run
pg_stop_backup() ? Or have a new function like pg_start_backup_wait()
?
Considering that parallell base backups would be io-bound (or
network-bound), there is little need to actually run them in parallell
.
Greetings
Marcin
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