Re: Allowing multiple concurrent base backups

From: Aidan Van Dyk <aidan(at)highrise(dot)ca>
To: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>
Cc: marcin mank <marcin(dot)mank(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Allowing multiple concurrent base backups
Date: 2011-01-12 15:22:32
Message-ID: AANLkTi=7_CkbuMVGzkOyOqjyp90Pn2XkMk9_r4xM3-LM@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:15 AM, David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org> wrote:

>> Considering that parallell base backups would be io-bound (or
>> network-bound), there is little need to actually run them in parallell
>
> That's not actually true.  Backups at the moment are CPU-bound, and
> running them in parallel is one way to make them closer to I/O-bound,
> which is what they *should* be.

Remember, we're talking about filesystem base backups here. If you're
CPU can't handle a stream from disk -> network, byte for byte (maybe
encrypting it), then you've spend *WAAAAY* to much on your storage
sub-system, and way to little on CPU.

I can see trying to "parallize" the base backup such that each
table-space could be run concurrently, but that's about it.

> There are other proposals out there, and some work being done, to make
> backups less dependent on CPU, among them:
>
> - Making the on-disk representation smaller
> - Making COPY more efficient
>
> As far as I know, none of this work is public yet.

pg_dump is another story. But it's not related to base backups for
PIT Recovery/Replication.

a.

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