| From: | Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> |
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| To: | Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Chao Li <li(dot)evan(dot)chao(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nazir Bilal Yavuz <byavuz81(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, tristan(dot)yim(at)gmail(dot)com |
| Subject: | Re: Checkpointer write combining |
| Date: | 2026-08-24 06:05:04 |
| Message-ID: | 9FB15BAB-BD87-419E-B327-B63E6E443E08@yandex-team.ru |
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> On 20 Aug 2026, at 01:30, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
Hi Melanie,
Thank you for working through the comments and for the detailed
performance analysis.
> I do have a comment on the enum about this. Should it be more
> descriptive in some way?
The enum purpose is already apparent from the name. I'd go with
something like this for BUC_MAX_ONE:
/*
* A strategy admits a buffer with usage count 1, but repeated
* strategy accesses must not make it resistant to eviction.
*/
BUC_MAX_ONE,
> I wonder whether it's worth a heuristic to avoid this.
I would very much like to avoid adding another heuristic initially. On
the other hand, the adverse workload seems less artificial than it first
sounds: a hot OLTP working set remains resident and is continuously
dirtied, while VACUUM brings the colder gaps through its ring. Writing
the hot neighbors early can then add foreground I/O only for them to be
dirtied again. Latency-sensitive OLTP is already a difficult workload
for PostgreSQL.
The opposite case is important too. When the server is under sustained
dirty-buffer pressure, writing wider contiguous batches is exactly what
should let it recover more efficiently. I do not yet see a reliable
signal that distinguishes these two cases, and the usage-count
experiment suggests that a simple filter would discard useful combining
as well.
So I do not yet have an opinion on whether the usage-count heuristic is
the right tradeoff, or whether there is a better signal. I will
think more about the adverse case, and will return to this with review of
the next group of commits.
Best regards, Andrey Borodin.
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