RE: start / stop scripts question

who is it distributed by then? it was on the postgres ftp mirror sites, so
it probably can't be redhat. I have found workarounds, so its not a big
deal, but... Also, i wonder what else is different from this package from
the "real" source distribution. I am sorry if this has been discussed or
explained in the past before, but i cannot find this info in a FAQ or know
what keywords to use if i want to search on the mailing list :).

-rchit

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:28 AM
To: Rachit Siamwalla
Cc: PostgreSQL Development
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] start / stop scripts question

You will find that that script is not distributed by us.

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>
> Hi,
>
> I believe i found two minor bugs in the linux start/stop scripts for the
> downloadable rpm version of postgres 7.1. I don't think these have been
> reported already (i did some quik searches). Please look these over and
see
> if i'm just smoking something or if these bugs are valid. Also, i did a
> quick cvs checkout / log of the contrib tree, and i noted that the
> start/stop scripts have been restructured recently (i do not know where
> logic of the scripts were moved to, so these points may still be valid, if
> not, i was wondering if I pull the scripts from the cvs contrib tree
myself,
> would they work out of the box?).
>
> ---
>
> #1. Every instance of (there are 2):
>
> pid=`pidof postmaster`
> if [ $pid ]
>
> should be:
>
> pid=`pidof -s postmaster`
> if [ $pid ]
>
> (pidof may return multiple pids if postmaster forked or has multiple
threads
> -- i'm not toofamiliar with postgres architecture, but postmaster does
> sometimes show multiple pids which could mean multiple threads or
processes
> in linux) If pidof returns multiple pids, the "if" will barf giving
> something like the following:
>
> Stopping postgresql service: [ OK ]
> Checking postgresql installation: [ OK ]
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql: [: 1223: unary operator expected
> Starting postgresql service: [FAILED]
>
> --------
>
> #2. /etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql restart sometimes doesn't do what it
should.
>
> ie. end up with a fresh newly started postgres daemon.
>
> This happens because the rc.d script does something very simple: stop;
> start. This is correct, but stop doesn't do what it should. When stop
> returns, postgres may not have fully stopped for some reason. start
> complains that postmaster is still running. After doing some testing, my
> hypothesis is this (i have no idea how postgres works intermally):
>
> 1. I run a bunch of inserts, create tables
> 2. I call postgres stop
> 3. one of the postgres "processes" stops.
> 4. the other processes are still trying to flush stuff onto the disk
before
> they quit.
> 5. start is called, and it finds some "postmaster" processes, and thus
says
> "postmaster is running".
> 6. the other processes finally are done and stop.
>
> Now there are no more postgres running.
>
> When i added a sleep 10 between stop / start, everything was fine. The
> "correct" solution would be for postgres stop to actually wait for the
> entire db to exit cleanly. BTW, i uncovered this via an automated install
/
> configuration / population of a postgress database which involves a
restart
> right after population of a database.
>
> Thanx.
>
> -rchit
>
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