Re: ECPG bug fix: DECALRE STATEMENT and DEALLOCATE, DESCRIBE

From: Michael Meskes <meskes(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, "kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: ECPG bug fix: DECALRE STATEMENT and DEALLOCATE, DESCRIBE
Date: 2021-08-08 18:34:53
Message-ID: 99f56f325e263b5227b881440ebc0cdae07a58aa.camel@postgresql.org
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On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 15:31 -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:43 PM Michael Meskes
> <meskes(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:
> > Again, I didn't know the RMT was expecting anything from me. Yes, I
> > knew I needed to spend some time on a technical issues, but that's
> > exactly the information I had at the time.
>
> As Andrew mentioned, I sent you an email on the 30th -- a full week
> prior to the email that formally timeboxed this open item. That
> earlier email is here:
>
> https://postgr.es/m/CAH2-Wzk=QxtSp0H5EKV92EH0u22HVMQLHGwYP4_FA3yTiEi9Yg@mail.gmail.com

This email said nothing about sending a status update or a deadline or
any question at all, only that you'd revert the patch if I was unable
to resolve the issue. So what's your point?

> I also talked about the RMT in the third person. My intent was to
> make

So? It's okay to disrespect a person if you mention the team that you
are representing in the third person, too?

> the message legalistic and impersonal. That's what is driving our
> thinking on this -- the charter of the RMT.

Please show me where the charter says that disrespecting a person is
fine. And while we're add it, does the code of conduct say anything
about the way people should be treated?

> We're all volunteers, just like you. I happen to be a big believer in
> our culture of personal ownership and personal responsibility. But
> you
> simply haven't engaged with us at all.

Which I tried to explain several times, but apparently not well enough.
Let me give you a short rundown from my perspective:

- A patch is sent that I mistakenly thought was a new feature and thus
did not apply time too immediately.
- After a while I get an email from you as spokesperson of the RMT that
if this is not fixed it'll have to be reverted eventually.
- I learn that Andrew tried to reach me. Again, I believe you Andrew,
that you sent the email, but I never saw it. Whether it's some
filtering or a user error that made it disappear, I have no idea, but
I'm surely sorry about that.
- I receive that email we keep talking about, the one in which you
treat me like I'm not even worth being addressed.

> You didn't say anything at all, which speaks for itself. And makes it
> impossible for us to be flexible.

Which flexibility did I ask for? It'd be nice if you only accused me of
things I did.

Honestly I do not understand you at all. You keep treating me like I
was asking for anything unreasonable while I'm only trying to explain
why I didn't act earlier. The only issue I have is the rude treatment
you gave me.

Just for the record, of course I'm going to look into the issue before
your deadline and will send a status update.

Michael

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