From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: *_collapse_limit, geqo_threshold |
Date: | 2009-07-07 17:32:15 |
Message-ID: | 9709.1246987935@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> One possibility would be to remove join_collapse_limit entirely, but
> that would eliminate one possibily-useful piece of functionality that
> it current enables: namely, the ability to exactly specify the join
> order by setting join_collapse_limit to 1. So one possibility would
> be to rename the variable something like explicit_join_order and make
> it a Boolean; another possibility would be to change the default value
> to INT_MAX.
As the person who put in those thresholds, I kind of prefer going over
to the boolean definition. That was the alternative that we considered;
the numeric thresholds were used instead because they were easy to
implement and seemed to possibly offer more control. But I'm not
convinced that anyone has really used them profitably. I agree that
the ability to use JOIN syntax to specify the join order exactly (with
join_collapse_limit=1) is the only really solid use-case anyone has
proposed for either threshold. I'm interested in Andreas' comment that
he has use-cases where using the collapse_limit is better than allowing
geqo to take over for very large problems ... but I think we need to see
those use-cases and see if there's a better fix.
regards, tom lane
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