Re: Updates of SE-PostgreSQL 8.4devel patches (r1268)

From: Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>
Subject: Re: Updates of SE-PostgreSQL 8.4devel patches (r1268)
Date: 2008-12-11 19:44:39
Message-ID: 87vdtqts2g.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> writes:

> On Thursday 11 December 2008 18:32:50 Tom Lane wrote:
>> > How can we stick all of these in the same column at the same time?
>>
>> Why would we want to?
>
> Because we want to use SQL-based row access control and SELinux-based row
> access control at the same time. Isn't this exactly one of the objections
> upthread? Both must be available at the same time.

Well I don't think anyone would actually want them *at the same time*.
Combining multiple security models would mean you aren't actually following
any security model.

But I don't like the idea of making it a compile-time switch. Having to ship
separate packages for different compile-time options is really an awful
solution from the distribution's point of view. And it doesn't scale either --
if we got another such option they would have 2^n combinations.

Distributions like to set distribution-wide policies like "compile with X
support". It doesn't mean you can't run those programs without actually using
that support, as in "emacs -nw". It would be nice to have the option at
run-time of whether to use selinux or row-acl support instead.

I think we need to separate out the --enable-selinux which would merely
compile in the support for selinux from the switch to control whether we
actually have selinux turned on. Make that either an initdb option or a
per-database option like we have with collation/encoding.

Then users can install a single package and decide whether they want to use
selinux or row-acls. If their distribution decides not to compile in selinux
support they just have one choice, row-acls (or nothing).

--
Gregory Stark
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