Re: what happend to my database

From: "Medi Montaseri" <montaseri(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Scott Marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Steve Holdoway" <steve(dot)holdoway(at)firetrust(dot)com>, pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: what happend to my database
Date: 2008-06-10 19:57:32
Message-ID: 8078a1730806101257m38fd1232nce7ae71870ee5de2@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Scott Marlowe <scott(dot)marlowe(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:

> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Medi Montaseri <montaseri(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> > Yes, this type of presumptuous behavior to wipe out a production database
> > based on a few checks is too risky...
> >
> > Behavior one:
> > First out-of-box time, pg_ctl does not find any database files, it tells
> the
> > user that "sorry I did not find any database to start....see initdb....
> > Result: we have a semi-unhappy user/admin that says... what is initdb
> >
> > Behavior two:
> > In order to enhance the out-of-box experience, we have wiped out a
> > production environment, leading to many unhappy staff and customers....
> >
> > PG developers...I am not impressed at all...
>
> In defense of the pg developers, the behaviour you describe was
> removed long ago BECAUSE of the issues you mention.
>
> The fact is that pg developers can't police every distro out there to
> make sure they've removed such hinky behaviour from their startup
> scripts. So, the persons to NOT be impressed with at all are the
> folks who maintain your OS's postgresql packaging, not the pg
> developers.

stand corrected

>
> Course, you can always switch to MySQL, or Oracle, or MSSQL where
> nothing like that ever happens. uh huh.

Never...I rather stay and fix it...than run away to a different country

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