Re: Collation version tracking for macOS

From: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>
To: Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Jeremy Schneider <schneider(at)ardentperf(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, "Finnerty, Jim" <jfinnert(at)amazon(dot)com>, "Nasby, Jim" <nasbyj(at)amazon(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Collation version tracking for macOS
Date: 2022-11-30 00:25:36
Message-ID: 6fec1a3a681623941c514e9ae0d97f42af417209.camel@j-davis.com
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On Wed, 2022-11-30 at 10:52 +1300, Thomas Munro wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 8:38 AM Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2022-11-29 at 10:46 -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
> > > One bit of weirdness is that I may have found another ICU
> > > problem.
> >
> > Reported as:
> >
> > https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/ICU-22216
>
> I'm no expert on loader/linker arcana but I have a feeling this is a
> dead end.  It's an ancient Unix or at least elf-era Unix convention
> that SONAMEs have major versions only, because major versions are the
> basis of ABI stability.

It's possible that it's more a problem of how they are doing it: the
specific version is coming from a dependency rather than the library
itself. The results are surprising, so I figured it's worth a report.
Let's see what they say.

Regardless, even if they did make a change, it's not going to help us
anytime soon. We can't rely on any scheme that involves multiple minor
versions for a single major version being installed at once. That means
that, if you create a collation depending on ICU X.Y, and then it gets
upgraded to X.(Y+1), and you create another collation depending on that
library version, you are stuck.

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Jeff Davis
PostgreSQL Contributor Team - AWS

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