Re: small database huge planning time

From: Andrei Lepikhov <lepihov(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Alexander Kulikov <a-kulikov(at)hotmail(dot)com>, pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: small database huge planning time
Date: 2026-01-24 22:12:54
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On 13/1/26 10:16, Alexander Kulikov wrote:
> Changing parameters: from_collapse_limit, join_collapse_limit, geqo, jit, work_mem and many
> others does not help at all. I attach 1. additional setting in the
> postgresql.status.conf. 2. querry itself in query.sql. 3. zql plan in
> query.sqlplan 4. additioanal information about os, tables etc. would you
> please help me -Alexander Kulikov

I have analysed your case (query-explain-1c.txt), thanks for the data
provided off-list.
In short, the main issue is the extensive use of MCV statistics on
(compressed) bytea columns.

The flamegraph of the planning process (see flamegraph-4999-1c.svg)
shows little, except that we spend a lot of time in the byteaeq routine.

Your tables contain many variable-length columns.
Look at the statistics on your tables (pgstats-1c.txt). There are
columns that exist containing 500 MCV elements and Histogram bins.

But how much do we actually touch these statistics and detoast these
massive arrays? Statistics on pg_statistic usage show my extension
pg_index_stats [1] - be careful, it is for research purposes for now! It
has been shown (see stat_used-1c.res) that some statistics were used 200
times or more during the planning of this query.

Column analysis exposes that _inforg10621::_fld10622rref and
_inforg8199::_fld8200_rrref are used in join clauses more than 6 times.
The _inforg10621::_fld15131rref is used in equality comparisons 7 times.
Remember, how many indexes your tables have, and you can imagine that
different combinations of parameterised index scan might add extra
clauses too.

Simple test: nullify the MCV of the two most used columns:

UPDATE pg_statistic
SET
stanumbers1 = CASE WHEN stakind1 = 1 THEN NULL ELSE stanumbers1 END,
stavalues1 = CASE WHEN stakind1 = 1 THEN NULL ELSE stavalues1 END,
stakind1 = CASE WHEN stakind1 = 1 THEN 0 ELSE stakind1 END,
stanumbers2 = CASE WHEN stakind2 = 1 THEN NULL ELSE stanumbers2 END,
stavalues2 = CASE WHEN stakind2 = 1 THEN NULL ELSE stavalues2 END,
stakind2 = CASE WHEN stakind2 = 1 THEN 0 ELSE stakind2 END
WHERE (starelid = '_inforg10621'::regclass AND staattnum = (
SELECT attnum FROM pg_attribute
WHERE (attrelid = '_inforg10621'::regclass AND attname =
'_fld10622rref')))
OR (starelid = '_inforg8199'::regclass AND staattnum = (
SELECT attnum FROM pg_attribute
WHERE (attrelid = '_inforg8199'::regclass AND attname =
'_fld8201rref')));

and now we see:
Planning:
Buffers: shared hit=5
Memory: used=4030kB allocated=4096kB
Planning Time: 31.347 ms
Execution Time: 0.237 ms

That's much better. Let's make the second check and launch this query on
the alternative Postgres fork (see query-explain-pgpro.txt) - same
version of Postgres (17.5). It touched almost 1500 buffers compared to 5
in the first case, but planning time is close to 0! Why?
Flamegraph seems to be the same (flamegraph-4999-pgpro.svg). Statistics
are exactly the same (pgstats-pgpro.txt). But pg_index_stats show that
it rarely ends up in the statistic slot (stats_used-pgpro). I suppose
here we have two factors: toast reading optimisation and (more
importantly) technique of caching recent statistic slots (in detoasted
and decompressed state).

What can you do? Not much, but still:
1. Reduce the statistical target on tables causing the problem, or just
nullify MCV statistics as I did in the example.
2. Complain to the vendor and force them to cache statistics.

[1] https://github.com/danolivo/pg_index_stats

--
regards, Andrei Lepikhov,
pgEdge

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