From: | Alvaro Hernandez <aht(at)ongres(dot)com> |
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To: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> |
Cc: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Euler Taveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com(dot)br>, Gregory Brail <gregbrail(at)google(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Built-in plugin for logical decoding output |
Date: | 2017-09-26 05:42:53 |
Message-ID: | 64d9eba1-5ae7-7fad-5877-72f9ea72abf9@ongres.com |
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On 25/09/17 22:13, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Alvaro Hernandez <aht(at)ongres(dot)com
> <mailto:aht(at)ongres(dot)com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 25/09/17 20:18, Andres Freund wrote:
>
> On 2017-09-24 13:36:56 +0300, Alvaro Hernandez wrote:
>
> However, if DMS uses it for what I'd call production
> use, I assume it is
> actually production quality. I bet they do enough testing,
> and don't ship
> software to potentially millions of customers if it
> doesn't work well. So...
> first, I'd consider this a a sign of robustness.
>
> You've been in software for how long? ... ;) There's quite mixed
> experiences with DMS.
>
>
> Actually long enough to understand that if someone "big" calls
> it production quality, we should not be pickier and assume it is
> --whether it is or not. People will accept it as such, and that's
> good enough.
>
>
> Historically the fact that we have been pickier than many of the
> "someone big":s is exactly how we ended up with the codebase and
> relative stability we have today.
>
> Just because someone is big doesn't mean they know what's right. In
> fact, more often than not the opposite turns out to be true.
>
>
Note that I'm not here supporting test_decoding. I'm just saying is
all what is available in-core for 9.4-9.6, and it seems someone with
potentially a lot of users tested it and is using it in its own
solution. Ask me if I would like an in-core, well tested, performant,
with an easy to parse format, and efficient, for 9.4-9.6? My answer
would be an immediate 'yes'. But since this is not going to happen,
test_decoding is good that is good enough, lucky us, because otherwise
there would not be a good solution on this front.
Álvaro
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Alvaro Hernandez
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