| From: | David Steele <david(at)pgbackrest(dot)org> |
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| To: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> |
| Cc: | Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Subject: | Re: Avoid truncated or zero-padded copies of replaced files in backups. |
| Date: | 2026-10-27 08:46:49 |
| Message-ID: | 64d57a71-7488-44b7-8fd6-384e2532ba08@pgbackrest.org |
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On 10/27/26 06:02, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 10:36:30AM +0000, David Steele wrote:
>> My hope is that all the eyeballs have caught the only problematic case (2pc)
>> but we'll need to be careful when adding new files in the future. If all the
>> examples in the code are correct it should be easier to get it right.
>
> I would bet a coin that somebody will include in the core code files
> that break this rule at some future point.
There is no way I am taking that bet.
> Perhaps we should be more
> aggressive in terms of in-core backend sanity checks. I am not sure
> what these would look like, though, and I doubt that such a thing
> would be worth the long-term maintenance cost vs the number of issues
> avoided.
Hopefully having correct examples to copy from will help, otherwise this
is the purpose of review. I can't think of any way to fool-proof it.
> The backpatches for v15 and v16 were not that complicated, as you said
> I have just used a boolean to track if we are working on a relation
> file or not and expanded sendFile() with one argument. One thing that
> I have left out of the picture is v14. It is going to be EOL with the
> next round of minors, and the races are edgy enough that I did not see
> this branch as worth taking a risk.
Agreed, my worry on putting anything like this into the soon-to-be-EOL
release is that if we get it wrong that's a net negative for that release.
I don't know of any instances of this race actually happening in the
wild, and since pgBackRest has never had the issue I don't have any data
from that side.
Thank you for reviewing and committing!
Regards,
-David
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