From: | Chris Browne <cbbrowne(at)acm(dot)org> |
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To: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Modifying TOAST thresholds |
Date: | 2007-04-05 01:11:34 |
Message-ID: | 60abxnmxq1.fsf@dba2.int.libertyrms.com |
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tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us (Tom Lane) writes:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
>> The big question is whether this is for 8.3 or 8.4.
>
> What I would definitely like to see for 8.3 is some performance testing
> done to determine whether we ought to change the current defaults.
> (Both TOAST_TUPLES_PER_PAGE and EXTERN_TUPLES_PER_PAGE ought to be looked
> at.)
>
> Whether it's possible to get the storage parameter in there depends on
> how soon someone produces a patch. Given that we understand this area
> fairly well, I personally would be willing to give it a pass on the
> "feature freeze" rule, as long as we have the patch by say mid-April.
If I had to end of April, I'd volunteer. Alas, I will be unavailable
between tomorrow and mid-April.
It seems to me that changing the denominator from 4 to something
somewhat higher (16 comes to mind) would probably be "the patch," and
would likely be useful for a fair number of cases. I'd really like to
see something like this (e.g. - something that would start TOASTing
for, say, tuples > 500 bytes) in 8.3; this seems to me to have the
potential to be a significant optimization that would be VERY cheap to
implement. "Low hanging fruit," so to speak.
EDB might like to use this as a route into a tunable "column store"
some time later; I don't think that should stop us from an improvement
today...
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