Re: Hot Standby (v9d)

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)krosing(dot)net>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com, Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Mark Kirkwood <markir(at)paradise(dot)net(dot)nz>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Hot Standby (v9d)
Date: 2009-02-03 15:19:13
Message-ID: 603c8f070902030719y47f295feh68a0557444708320@mail.gmail.com
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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 09:14 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
>> I think _the_ solution is to notice when you're about to vacuum a page
>> that is still visible to a running backend on the standby, and save
>> that page off to a separate cache of old page versions (perhaps using
>> the relation fork mechanism).
>
> I'll let you write that, for the next release...

LOL. How many sponsorship dollars are available for that project?

> The problem with all of this is we've been talking about it for 8 months
> now and various opinions are held by people. What is being presented is
> a broad set of options (summarised from Wiki)

I think everyone understands that these are things we might want to do
down the line, not things we need to have now. For this release, I
was under the impression that we'd pretty much settled on implementing
(1) and maybe (3) but not (2) from the below list.

> 1. Wait then cancel
> a) always for databases, tablespaces and locks
> b) deferred cancelation for buffer changes
>
> 2. We connect to Primary server from Standby server and keep a
> transaction open using contrib/dblink functions, then commit as soon as
> we are done.
>
> 3. We pause recovery by issuing a pg_recovery_pause() function, or start
> server in pause mode using recovery_started_paused = on.
>
> Yes, it's a critical area to the success of the feature. But this is
> enough for first release and for us to get user feedback.

I completely agree.

...Robert

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