| From: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
| Cc: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Joshua Brindle <method(at)manicmethod(dot)com>, Ron Mayer <rm_pg(at)cheapcomplexdevices(dot)com>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Jonah H(dot) Harris" <jonah(dot)harris(at)gmail(dot)com>, Gregory Stark <stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Bernd Helmle <mailings(at)oopsware(dot)de>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: 8.4 release planning |
| Date: | 2009-01-27 17:41:46 |
| Message-ID: | 603c8f070901270941h227bdddap97a4c78393c1d88f@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>>> Yeah, people like certification, but they also like products that work.
>>> Did you stop reading before getting to my non-security-based complaints?
>
>> I read them, but I suspect they are issues that can be addressed. How
>> would any of this affect join removal, anyway?
>
> It would prevent us from making optimizations that assume foreign key
> constraints hold; which is a performance issue not a covert-channel
> issue.
Oh, I see now. That problem is going to be common to row-level DAC
and SE-PostgreSQL proper. It would not surprise me if any sort of
row-level access control turns out to be bad for performance, but
mainly because the overhead of checking permissions on every tuple is
bound to cost something. If some day we have join removal and it has
to be disabled when row-level access control is turned on, those users
will be no worse off than they are today: no join removal.
...Robert
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