From: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se> |
Subject: | Re: Online enabling of checksums |
Date: | 2018-03-03 16:06:06 |
Message-ID: | 5e01a565-66bb-1ab0-73df-1b9ee46bd0d6@2ndquadrant.com |
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On 03/03/2018 01:38 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Tomas Vondra
>> <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>> Hmmm, OK. So we need to have a valid checksum on a page, disable
>>> checksums, set some hint bits on the page (which won't be
>>> WAL-logged), enable checksums again and still get a valid
>>> checksum even with the new hint bits? That's possible, albeit
>>> unlikely.
>>
>> No, the problem is if - as is much more likely - the checksum is
>> not still valid.
>
> Hmm, on second thought ... maybe I didn't think this through
> carefully enough. If the checksum matches on the master by chance,
> and the page is the same on the standby, then we're fine, right? It's
> a weird accident, but nothing is actually broken. The failure
> scenario is where the standby has a version of the page with a bad
> checksum, but the master has a good checksum. So for example:
> checksums disabled, master modifies the page (which is replicated),
> master sets some hint bits (coincidentally making the checksum
> match), now we try to turn checksums on and don't re-replicate the
> page because the checksum already looks correct.
>
Yeah. Doesn't that pretty much mean we can't skip any pages that have
correct checksum, because we can't rely on standby having the same page
data? That is, this block in ProcessSingleRelationFork:
/*
* If checksum was not set or was invalid, mark the buffer as dirty
* and force a full page write. If the checksum was already valid, we
* can leave it since we know that any other process writing the
* buffer will update the checksum.
*/
if (checksum != pagehdr->pd_checksum)
{
START_CRIT_SECTION();
MarkBufferDirty(buf);
log_newpage_buffer(buf, false);
END_CRIT_SECTION();
}
That would mean this optimization - only doing the write when the
checksum does not match - is broken.
If that's the case, it probably makes restarts/resume more expensive,
because this optimization was why after restart the already processed
data was only read (and the checksums verified) but not written.
regards
--
Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
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