Re: Tracing down buildfarm "postmaster does not shut down" failures

From: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: <pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Tracing down buildfarm "postmaster does not shut down" failures
Date: 2016-02-10 02:41:27
Message-ID: 56BAA357.3020300@BlueTreble.com
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On 2/8/16 2:45 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>> What I'd like to do to investigate this is put in a temporary HEAD-only
>>> patch that makes ShutdownXLOG() and its subroutines much chattier about
>>> how far they've gotten and what time it is, and also makes pg_ctl print
>>> out the current time if it gives up waiting.
>
>> Seems like a reasonable place to start. I assume you'll be installing
>> some debug-elog calls, enabled by default, and then once the problem is
>> fixed, we'll change the default to disabled but keep the actual calls?
>
> I had in mind to just "git revert" the patch when we're done with it.
> There might be some parts we want to keep (for instance, I'm thinking of
> logging "postmaster is done" after we've unlinked the pidfile, which might
> be useful permanently). But I plan to err on the side of noisiness for
> the moment, rather than make something I think has long-term value.

It's already difficult enough for DBAs to debug some performance issues,
so getting rid of logging is a step backwards. I realize it's unlikely
that you could run DEBUG2 in a prod environment, but we still shouldn't
be reducing visibility.
--
Jim Nasby, Data Architect, Blue Treble Consulting, Austin TX
Experts in Analytics, Data Architecture and PostgreSQL
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