Re: proposal: make NOTIFY list de-duplication optional

From: Vik Fearing <vik(at)2ndquadrant(dot)fr>
To: Filip Rembiałkowski <filip(dot)rembialkowski(at)gmail(dot)com>, Brendan Jurd <direvus(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pgsql Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: proposal: make NOTIFY list de-duplication optional
Date: 2016-02-07 10:54:04
Message-ID: 56B7224C.4090807@2ndquadrant.fr
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On 02/07/2016 03:42 AM, Filip Rembiałkowski wrote:
> +1
>
> ... and a patch (only adding ALL keyword, no hash table implemented yet).

Please stop top-posting, it's very disruptive. My comments are below,
where they belong.

> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Brendan Jurd <direvus(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 at 12:50 Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>>
>>> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>>>> I agree with what Merlin said about this:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAHyXU0yoHe8Qc=yC10AHU1nFiA1tbHsg+35Ds-oEueUapo7t4g@mail.gmail.com
>>>
>>> Yeah, I agree that a GUC for this is quite unappetizing.
>>
>>
>> How would you feel about a variant for calling NOTIFY?
>>
>> The SQL syntax could be something like "NOTIFY [ALL] channel, payload" where
>> the ALL means "just send the notification already, nobody cares whether
>> there's an identical one in the queue".
>>
>> Likewise we could introduce a three-argument form of pg_notify(text, text,
>> bool) where the final argument is whether you are interested in removing
>> duplicates.
>>
>> Optimising the remove-duplicates path is still probably a worthwhile
>> endeavour, but if the user really doesn't care at all about duplication, it
>> seems silly to force them to pay any performance price for a behaviour they
>> didn't want, no?

On 02/07/2016 03:42 AM, Filip Rembiałkowski wrote:
> +1
>
> ... and a patch (only adding ALL keyword, no hash table implemented yet).

I only read through the patch, I didn't compile it or test it, but I
have a few comments:

You left the duplicate behavior with subtransactions, but didn't mention
it in the documentation. If I do NOTIFY DISTINCT chan, 'msg'; then I
expect only distinct notifications but I'll get duplicates if I'm in a
subtransaction. Either the documentation or the code needs to be fixed.

I seem to remember some discussion about not using DEFAULT parameters in
system functions so you should leave the old function alone and create a
new function with your use_all parameter. I don't recall the exact
reason why so hopefully someone else will enlighten me.

There is also no mention in the documentation about what happens if I do:

NOTIFY ALL chan, 'msg';
NOTIFY ALL chan, 'msg';
NOTIFY DISTINCT chan, 'msg';
NOTIFY ALL chan, 'msg';

Without testing, I'd say I'd get two messages, but it should be
explicitly mentioned somewhere.
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