Re: [CORE] Restore-reliability mode

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgsql-core <pgsql-core(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [CORE] Restore-reliability mode
Date: 2015-06-06 16:55:58
Message-ID: 5573261E.6070500@commandprompt.com
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On 06/05/2015 08:07 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:

>> From my side, it is only recently I got some clear answers to my questions
>> about how it worked. I think it is very important that major features have
>> extensive README type documentation with them so the underlying principles used
>> in the development are clear. I would define the measure of a good feature as
>> whether another committer can read the code comments and get a good feel. A bad
>> feature is one where committers walk away from it, saying I don't really get it
>> and I can't read an explanation of why it does that. Tom's most significant
>> contribution is his long descriptive comments on what the problem is that need
>> to be solved, the options and the method chosen. Clarity of thought is what
>> solves bugs.
>
> Yes, I think we should have done that early-on for multi-xact, and I am
> hopeful we will learn to do that more often when complex features are
> implemented, or when we identify areas that are more complex than we
> thought.
>

I see this idea of the README as very useful. There are far more people
like me in this community than Simon or Alvaro. I can test, I can break
things, I can script up a harness but I need to be understand HOW and
the README would help allow for that.

>
> People think I want to stop feature development to review. What I am
> saying is that we need to stop development so we can be honest about
> whether we need review, and where. It is hard to be honest when time
> and feature pressure are on you. It shouldn't take long to make that
> decision as a group.
>

Right. This is all about taking a step back, a deep breath, an objective
look and then digging in with a more productive and reliable manner.

Sincerely,

JD

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