Re: proposal: plpgsql - Assert statement

From: Marko Tiikkaja <marko(at)joh(dot)to>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Jan Wieck <jan(at)wi3ck(dot)info>, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: proposal: plpgsql - Assert statement
Date: 2014-09-17 19:04:53
Message-ID: 5419DB55.5080702@joh.to
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On 9/17/14, 9:00 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 9/14/14 2:49 PM, Jan Wieck wrote:
>> I don't think it is even a good idea to implement assertions that can
>> query arbitrary data.
>
> In a normal programming language, an assertion is usually a static fault
> in your program. If the assertion ever fails, you fix your program and
> then it hopefully never happens again.
>
> Assertion that query the state of the database or result row counts are
> pushing that concept quite a bit. Those are not assertions, those are
> just plain old error handling.

*shrug* I don't see them as error handling if they're just checking
conditions which should never happen.

That said, in PL/PgSQL these expressions would likely have to be SQL
expressions, and then you'd have to go out of your way to implement
assertions which *can't* query arbitrary data. And that just seems silly.

.marko

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