Re: Add PostgreSQL 11 to feature matrix page?

From: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp>, PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Add PostgreSQL 11 to feature matrix page?
Date: 2018-06-06 14:35:37
Message-ID: 5419B0FD-935D-4121-9EBA-8361F646A85A@postgresql.org
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> On Jun 6, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
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>
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> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 1:59 AM, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org <mailto:jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>> wrote:
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>> On Jun 4, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org <mailto:jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2018, at 10:09 PM, Tatsuo Ishii <ishii(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp <mailto:ishii(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp>> wrote:
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>>> [Moved to pgsql-www]
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>> Sorry for the slow reply!
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>>>>> Adding PostgreSQL 11 to the page will give users at-a-glance-dfference
>>>>> between 11 and previous releases, which could bring clearner image of
>>>>> 11 to the users.
>>>>
>>>> I do like this idea, but there are a few things to consider:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Traditionally, we’ve waited until closer to release (I believe RCs) before
>>>> putting them up, due to the fact features can change. It is simple to remove
>>>> features from the feature matrix, but I think it’s part of the final packaging to
>>>> include the full list of features.
>>>
>>> But by definition, all features in beta (at least major ones) are
>>> freezed and should not be changed unless there's a serious
>>> technical/none technical issue. So the features in the matrix would
>>> not be changed we expect. Also one of the purposes of beta is
>>> encouraging users to test out the beta. Adding to the page will give
>>> more chances to potential beta testers, I think.
>>
>> I don’t disagree. I need to make a test to see if this is possible with
>> the current pgweb configuration.
>>
>> I will make a test on my local copy of pgweb to see how easy it is to add 11
>> to the list. I will report back if it is easy or not. If the former, I’ll make the suggestion
>> of adding it to the site and see if there are any objections.
>
> So to get this to work we need to follow the standard process of adding in
> a new version to the feature matrix:
>
> 1. Write a migration to support “v11” in the Feature model
> 2. Add in the new features
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> The one thing currently is that unless something in the code is changed, it
> displays the full version number (e.g. “11”) without any indication of it being
> in beta. Experimenting with the code, I don’t think it would be difficult to add
> that in, but it is non trivial and I may have to change some of the sorting code
> we are currently using.
>
> tl;dr
>
> If we’re ok with displaying “11” early without any indication of beta, this is trivial
> and we just need to create the migration. If not, then it’s a bit of work, but it
> may be worthwhile.
>
> Thoughts?
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> I think it's perfectly fine to show it as 11.

See attached for review. This follows the standard format we have used for
adding new versions to the feature matrix.

Thanks,

Jonathan

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