Re: No longer possible to query catalogs for index capabilities?

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: No longer possible to query catalogs for index capabilities?
Date: 2016-07-27 02:03:07
Message-ID: 5265.1469584987@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> On 7/25/16 3:26 PM, Andrew Gierth wrote:
>> The issue I ran into was the exact same one as in the JDBC thread I
>> linked to earlier: correctly interpreting pg_index.indoption (to get the
>> ASC / DESC and NULLS FIRST/LAST settings), which requires knowing
>> whether amcanorder is true to determine whether to look at the bits at
>> all.

> Maybe we should provide a facility to decode those bits then?

Yeah. I'm not very impressed by the underlying assumption that it's
okay for client-side code to hard-wire knowledge about what indoption
bits mean, but not okay for it to hard-wire knowledge about which index
AMs use which indoption bits. There's something fundamentally wrong
in that. We don't let psql or pg_dump look directly at indoption, so
why would we think that third-party client-side code should do so?

Andrew complained upthread that pg_get_indexdef() was too heavyweight
for his purposes, but it's not clear to me what he wants instead.

regards, tom lane

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