Re: Documentation/help for materialized and recursive views

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nicolas Barbier <nicolas(dot)barbier(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Documentation/help for materialized and recursive views
Date: 2013-07-01 20:10:23
Message-ID: 51D1E22F.7080209@commandprompt.com
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On 07/01/2013 07:20 AM, David Fetter wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 10:05:24AM -0400, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> On 6/28/13 2:27 PM, David Fetter wrote:
>>>> You can run \! man from within psql,
>>> And if you're on Windows, you're Sadly Out of Luck with that. Is
>>> there an equivalent we could #ifdef in for that platform?
>>
>> If you are using psql on Windows extensively, you probably have one of
>> mingw, cygwin, or pgadmin handy, all of which can get you to the
>> documentation. I don't think it's worth devising a mechanism for those
>> not covered by this.
>
> With deepest respect, failing to provide documentation to users on our
> widest-deployed platform seems pretty hostile to me. There was an
> earlier suggestion that we provide URLs, which seems like a decent way
> forward as those environments so locked down as to disallow outbound
> HTTP are pretty rare, and non-networked computers are even more rare.
>

Although I agree with the sentiment the idea that postgres more widely
deployed on windows than other platforms is rather laughable. The only
metrics we have are "downloads" which doesn't count cause linux ships
with postgres with a simple yum or apt-get.

Whatever solution we decide, we should not push this responsibility off
on pgadmin as pgadmin is not part of PostgreSQL but a third party tool.
The "standard" postgresql client is psql (for good or bad) and we should
support psql fully on all platforms.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

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