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Re: Short summary of postgres and enterprisedb strategy issues

From: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
To: pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Short summary of postgres and enterprisedb strategy issues
Date: 2012-10-08 21:03:46
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On 10/8/12 2:04 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> On 10/3/12 9:44 PM, Scott & Kathy Law wrote:
>> I'm not aware of a single development tool or application framework supplier that leads with EntepriseDB or PostgreSQL. "
> FWIW, that one statement is hardly accurate. Django?  Rails?  Atlassan?

Someone should point him toward your recent suggestion of

His whole argument in this area seems based on outdated commercial 
vendor oriented thinking.  PostgreSQL fits into plenty of open-source 
application building stacks.  Saying that PostgreSQL is not preferred by 
any supplier of development tools is a commercial oriented commentary 
whose market relevance decreases each year.

More companies every day now are coming to me saying "we're embracing a 
fully open-source stack", which includes open-source development tools 
and frameworks too.  As you say, the Ruby and Django development 
communities are two very obvious examples that have already climbed way 
up in adoption due to that.  I have plenty of customers happily chugging 
away with PostgreSQL, JDBC, and Java with Eclipse or NetBeans as their 
development environment too.  Even IBM's Websphere lists the PostgreSQL 
JDBC driver as an option--it's in the middle of a list that starts with 
DB2 and ends with Oracle, as you'd expect.

Just who else does he expect to embrace PostgreSQL?  Yes, Oracle 
JDeveloper and Microsoft Visual Studio are not promoting PostgreSQL 
integration.  So what?  Those programs are part of the larger problem to 
be solved, not a solution, if you're a company that's fed up with the 
licensing and restrictions of commercial software.

Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com   Baltimore, MD
PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support

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