Re: Draft release notes complete

On 09/06/2012 03:43 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 09:33:35PM -0400, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>>
>> On 09/05/2012 09:25 PM, Bruce Momjian wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 09:56:32PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>>>> Excerpts from Tom Lane's message of mié sep 05 20:24:08 -0300 2012:
>>>>> Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> writes:
>>>>>> The only reason there is a significant delay is that the administrators
>>>>>> have chosen not to run the process more than once every 4 hours. That's
>>>>>> a choice not dictated by the process they are using, but by other
>>>>>> considerations concerning the machine it's being run on. Since I am not
>>>>>> one of the admins and don't really want to take responsibility for it I
>>>>>> am not going to second guess them. On the very rare occasions when I
>>>>>> absolutely have to have the totally up to date docs I build them myself
>>>>>> - it takes about 60 seconds on my modest hardware.
>>>>> I think the argument for having a quick docs build service is not about
>>>>> the time needed, but the need to have all the appropriate tools
>>>>> installed. While I can understand that argument for J Random Hacker,
>>>>> I'm mystified why Bruce doesn't seem to have bothered to get a working
>>>>> SGML toolset installed. It's not like editing the docs is a one-shot
>>>>> task for him.
>>>> As far as I understand, Bruce's concern is not about seeing the docs
>>>> built himself, but having an HTML copy published somewhere that he can
>>>> point people to, after applying some patch. To me, that's a perfectly
>>>> legitimate reason to want to have them quickly.
>>> Correct. I have always had a working SGML toolset. If we are not going
>>> to have the developer site run more often, I will just go back to
>>> setting up my own public doc build, like I used to do. I removed mine
>>> when the official one was more current/reliable --- if that has changed,
>>> I will return to my old setup, and publish my own URL for users to
>>> verify doc changes.
>>
>> How often do you want? After all,
>> <http://developer.postgresql.org/docs/postgres/index.html> is
>> presumably going to keep pointing to where it now points.
>
> Well, the old code checked every five minutes, and it rebuilt in 4
> minutes, so there was a max of 10 minutes delay.

the new code gives you a lot more though - it makes sure that the code
the docs refer to actually builds and passes testing, it uses the exact
same toolchain and setup/infrastructure that we build the official
snapshots/tarballs, the official PDFs and reuses an important piece of
our environment - the buildfarm-client.
I'm having a hard time understanding why getting a bit more frequency
for the odd "docs only"+"need to show somebody the html and not the
patch" requirement is really something we "need".

Stefan