Re: BBU Cache vs. spindles

From: James Mansion <james(at)mansionfamily(dot)plus(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Kevin Grittner <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com, Scott Marlowe <scott(dot)marlowe(at)gmail(dot)com>, Steve Crawford <scrawford(at)pinpointresearch(dot)com>, pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org, Ben Chobot <bench(at)silentmedia(dot)com>
Subject: Re: BBU Cache vs. spindles
Date: 2010-10-29 20:52:30
Message-ID: 4CCB340E.1000307@mansionfamily.plus.com
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Uh, no, it is not. The difference is that we can update a byte in a
> shared buffer, and know that it *isn't* getting written out before we
>
Well, I don't know where yu got the idea I was refering to that sort of
thing - its
the same as writing to a buffer before copying to the mmap'd area.
> It's true that we don't know whether write() causes an immediate or
> delayed disk write, but we generally don't care that much. What we do
>
Which is what I was refering to.
> care about is being able to ensure that a WAL write happens before the
> data write, and with mmap we don't have control over that.
>
>
I think you have just the same control either way, because you can only
force ordering
with an appropriate explicit sync, and in the absence of such a sync all
bets are off for
whether/when each disk page is written out, and if you can't ensure that
the controller
and disk are write through you'd better do a hardware cache flush.too,
right?

A shame that so many systems have relatively poor handling of that
hardware flush.

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