Re: Exposing the Xact commit order to the user

From: Jan Wieck <JanWieck(at)Yahoo(dot)com>
To: Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>, PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Exposing the Xact commit order to the user
Date: 2010-05-26 23:09:25
Message-ID: 4BFDAA25.1030202@Yahoo.com
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On 5/26/2010 5:12 PM, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 26/05/10 23:49, Jan Wieck wrote:
>> In this implementation it wouldn't even matter if a transaction that was
>> recorded actually never made it because it crashed before the WAL flush.
>> It would be reported by this "commit order" feature, but there would be
>> no traces of whatever it did to be found inside the DB, so that anomaly
>> is harmless.
>
> Hmm, I think it would also not matter if the reported commit order
> doesn't match exactly the order of the commit records, as long as
> there's no dependency between the two transactions.
>
> What I'm after is that I think it would be enough to establish the
> commit order using deferred triggers that are fired during pre-commit
> processing. The trigger could get a number from a global sequence to
> establish the commit order, and write it to a table. So you still need a
> global sequence, but it's only needed once per commit.

You're not trying to derail this thread into yet another of our famous
"commit trigger" battles, are you?

>
> (you have to handle deferred triggers that fire after the commit-order
> trigger. perhaps by getting another number from the global sequence and
> replacing the previous number with it)

I could imagine a commit trigger as a special case that is fired AFTER
the trigger queue was shut down, so any operation that causes any
further triggers to fire would automatically abort the transaction. A
draconian, but reasonable restriction.

Jan

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