Re: Seeking performance advice and explanation for high I/O on 8.3

From: Andy Colson <andy(at)squeakycode(dot)net>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Seeking performance advice and explanation for high I/O on 8.3
Date: 2009-09-03 21:27:28
Message-ID: 4AA034C0.40902@squeakycode.net
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Robert Haas wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Scott Otis<scott(dot)otis(at)intand(dot)com> wrote:
>> Sorry about not responding to the whole list earlier - this is my first time posting to a mailing list.
>>
>> Would providing more information about the size and complexities of the databases help?
>>
>> I measure I/O stats with iostat - here is the command I use:
>>
>> iostat -d -x mfid0 -t 290 2
>>
>> I tried looking at the man page for iostat but couldn't find anywhere how to determine what the stats are for sequential vs random - any help there?
>>
>> When using 'top -m io' the postgres stats collector process is constantly at 99% - 100%.
>>
>> When using 'top' the WCPU for the postgres stats collector and the autovacuum process are constantly at 20% - 21%.
>>
>> Is that normal? It seems to me that the stats collector is doing all the I/O (which would mean the stats collector is doing 46.1 megabytes /sec).
>>
>> Also, the I/O stats don't change hardly at all (except at night during backups which makes sense). They don't go up or down with user activity on the server - which makes me wonder a little bit. I have a feeling that if I just turned off Apache that the I/O stats wouldn't change. Which leads me to believe that the I/O is not query related - its stats collecting and autovacuuming related. Is that expected?
>>
>> It seems to me that the stats collector shouldn't be using that much I/O and CPU (and the autovacuum shouldn't be using that much CPU) - therefore something in my configuration must be messed up or could be changed somehow. But maybe I'm wrong - please let me know.
>>
>> I don't think my setup is necessarily slow. I just want to make it as efficient as possible and wanted to get some feedback to see if am setting things up right. I am also looking out into the future and seeing how much load I can put on this server before getting another one. If I can reduce the I/O and CPU that the stats collector and autovacuum are using without losing any functionality then I can put more load on the server.
>>
>> Again thanks for all the help.
>
> Can you post to the list all the uncommented lines from your
> postgresql.conf file and attach the results of "select * from
> pg_stat_all_tables" as an attachment?
>
> ...Robert
>

The first message he posted had this, and other info... Which is funny, because I almost asked the exact same question :-)

FreeBSD 6.4
Apache 2.2
PostgreSQL 8.3.6
PHP 5.2.9


~1500 databases w/ ~60 tables each

Conf settings:

listen_addresses = '*'
max_connections = 600
ssl = on
password_encryption = on
shared_buffers = 1GB
work_mem = 5MB
maintenance_work_mem = 256MB
max_fsm_pages = 2800000
max_fsm_relations = 160000
synchronous_commit = off
checkpoint_segments = 6
checkpoint_warning = 30s
effective_cache_size = 1GB


pg_stat_bgwriter:

checkpoints_timed: 16660
checkpoints_req: 1309
buffers_checkpoint: 656346
buffers_clean: 120922
maxwritten_clean: 1
buffers_backend: 167623
buffers_alloc: 472802349

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