Re: [PATCH] SE-PgSQL/tiny rev.2193

From: Joshua Brindle <method(at)manicmethod(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)ak(dot)jp(dot)nec(dot)com>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai(at)kaigai(dot)gr(dot)jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SE-PgSQL/tiny rev.2193
Date: 2009-07-20 18:05:38
Message-ID: 4A64B1F2.8080806@manicmethod.com
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Martijn van Oosterhout<kleptog(at)svana(dot)org> writes:
>> I'm asking because from my position it looks like KaiGai is being
>> simultaneously told "you patch is too big, make it smaller" and "your
>> patch is not complete (with respect to some metric), make it bigger"
>> and we need to define a middle ground if we want to avoid the
>> appearence of moving goalposts.
>
> Well, the assumption behind the "make it smaller" advice was that
> followon patches might re-add (some of) the advanced functionality
> once we had a basic connection to SELinux up and running. So yes,
> there's an expectation of the goals changing over time, and I don't
> see a reason to apologize for that.
>
> But on the whole the problem is that the community just isn't interested
> in this topic. Every so often somebody pops up and tells us "if you
> build it they will come", but there is a complete lack of hard evidence
> that there's significant interest out there. Without that, I don't think
> we'll ever get to the point of wanting to put in the work to make it
> happen and then support it over time. This is a huge project, and
> taking it seriously will mean draining resources away from other
> high-priority issues. We need way more evidence of interest than has
> been presented.
>

How many people are you looking for? Is there a number or are you waiting for a
good feeling?

The unfortunate part is that many of the people that would use it are unable to
publicly say so.

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