Re: WHAT to push to internet

Hi Dave,

>> Or do you mean that every line of this logo is connected, like the blue
>> elephant with white lines in it, like on www.postgresql.org's?
>
> Yeah, that one - though when I say single vs. multi line, I'm thinking
> of the older one which is a blue Slonik, with a white outline, and a
> black outline around that, giving it 2 outlines.

Ok. Got it, thanks ;)

> I agree with your reasons, but we should not use the EU stars to
> represent them, as that *could* be seen to exclude those from outside
> the EU. [...]

I wasn't aware of that point. Thanks to have insisted, I agree with you.
Let's say "no stars" then.

> We should find something else to represent what we're all
> about that is appropriate for all Europeans.

What about a "portion" of a 2D map like... well (googled image):

http://www.ciep.fr/images/carte_europe.gif ??

this one has the benefit of not delimitating any particular countries.
It may be zoomed in/out like we need to.

>> I forgot to mention that a "completely new logo" is my favorite option
>> there. This would prevent the confusion between PostgreSQL.org, the
>> project, and PostgreSQL.eu, the European project regarding PostgreSQL
>> advocacy and groups inside Europe.
>
> I disagree entirely. The Slonik image is a global one (with the
> exception of Japan where elephant logos are associated with the cult
> responsible for the Tokyo subway sarin gas attacks if memory serves).
> We should be free to invent a European version imho, but it should
> still be an elephant. We should also retain the use of blue as a
> primary colour - we want our own identity, but we must stay true to
> the global PostgreSQL brand.

I think you got me wrong, because I badly expressed myself. I meant I'd
like a new logo, and not using the PGSQL INC one.

I added those requirements then:

>> I may suggest those requirements:
>> - an elephant (at least)
>> - PostgreSQL' blue may be the dominant color
>> - a few stars

So, we both agree on:
- an elephant (at least)
- PostgreSQL' blue may be the dominant color

Let's talk about the last point: map or not, or other "European"
representation??...

Sorry again for the misunderstanding.

Thanks,

--
Jean-Paul Argudo
www.PostgreSQLFr.org
www.Dalibo.com