Re: Change the name

From: Ron Mayer <rm_pg(at)cheapcomplexdevices(dot)com>
To: Greg Sabino Mullane <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Change the name
Date: 2007-09-05 13:02:28
Message-ID: 46DEA8E4.4050409@cheapcomplexdevices.com
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Greg Sabino Mullane wrote:
>
> I made a
> quick wiki page. Pleae let Neil or myself know if anyone needs editing privs:
>
> http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/Postgres

I'm happy to add them myself if you wanted to add naming privs; or
I can just email them here if you guys want to choose which ones to add.

Some more pros and cons for that page .. mostly from earlier in the thread.

[More] Pros for changing the name to "Postgres"
* Some friendly companies already using this term would benefit.

[More] Cons for changing the name to "Postgres"
* Some friendly companies using PostgreSQL term would lose benefits
or have to rephrase their taglines or other references to PostgreSQL.

Perhaps also add a section

"Things that may need to be changed if the name is not changed"
* Make "Postgre" an officially acceptable short form because it's the
obvious short form of PostgreSQL; which will prevent some of the
abuse of new members, users, and customers of the product.
* or, Fund a marketing campaign to educate the world that
we're not Postgre.
* Rename paths and filenames and processes from postgres to postgresql.
* Update paths on website that use "pgsql" instead of "PostgreSQL".
* Produce new swag as the old inventory is used up.
* Make links use PostgreSQL.org instead of postgresql.org to
re-enforce the brand.
* Update the mailing list names from "pgsql-advocacy"
to "postgresql-advocacy"
Obviously some of these don't have to change here any more
than they would have to with the name Postgres; but if people
add them to the list of work for the new name, seems they should
be there for the old name too.

Perhaps also add a section

"Alternatives to changing to Postgres"

* Moving to PostgresQL - which keeps domain names, etc but
encourages the preferred short form.
* Approving of "Postgre".
* A marketing campaign to educate the world against "Postgre"

Add to external links:

* http://svr5.postgresql.org/pgsql-novice/2006-07/msg00063.php
Which has the interesting quote:
"Arguably, the 1996 decision to call it PostgreSQL instead
of reverting to plain Postgres was the single worst mistake
this project ever made."

I also think it'd be worth adding an example that illustrates
why PostgreSQL is so awkward to people who haven't gotten years
getting numb to the term. Perhaps comparing to EnterpriSQL
would help illustrate this; or perhaps a sentence like
"PerhapSQL Josh BerkuSQL iSQL going to say yeSQL
and blesSQL this project if he seeSQL how new userSQL
parse wordSQL with mixed case."
would server better.

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