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Re: Joining the OSA

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: Andy Astor <andy(dot)astor(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, Shane Ambler <pgsql(at)sheeky(dot)biz>
Subject: Re: Joining the OSA
Date: 2007-03-28 03:04:48
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Andy,
>> Personally, folks, I don't think it's that big a deal to agree to join,
>> assuming the community generally supports the goals of the OSA. There's no
>> requirement for specific activities, and no one would get down on an
>> all-volunteer community for being relatively passive. All members (and
>> Friends) do what they can.
> Well, given the nature of our community it's pretty hard to speak for all 
> members.  And the OSA agreement, at least on paper, requires everyone in 
> PostgreSQL to be enthusiastic about the OSA, which full consensus I can't 
> imagine getting.


I believe the goals of the OSA are good ones. However there are some 
pretty large, specific problems with the way OSA is designed.

• Express public support for the OSA and the OSA website. In support of
        this, all members are required to do the following:
            o Adding a "Member of OSA" mention to all press release 
            o Featuring the OSA logo and a link to the OSA website on 
your home page
            o Including the OSA member logo on printed collateral as 

Honestly, who is the OSA to demand this type of compensation? Which is 
what it really is. The OSA is saying, "Hey, we are this good and because 
of that you will pay us by providing free advertising."

I understand that EDB is offering to handle a lot of this, the problem 
is it isn't EDB that is joining it is PostgreSQL via SPI.

I appreciate OSA willing to let us join. I appreciate what they are 
trying to do in general. As a contributor, I could not support an action 
that has PostgreSQL joining OSA.


Joshua D. Drake

> I don't know if you were aware, but we were unable to get a consensus on 
> putting up anti-EU-patent banners on the home page during the campaign 
> period, also.  And that's an idea a lot closer to the hearts of almost all of 
> our community.


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