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From: Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Language data
Date: 2007-02-27 07:11:44
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Magnus Hagander a écrit :
>>> [...]
>> I see a different way to look at your statistics. This is just
>> percentage numbers. Do you have "real" numbers ? I mean, 3.9% of the
>> people visiting speak french. OK. But 3.9% of how many ?
>> Looking at wikipedia, the United States' population stood at an
>> estimated 300,000,000. France has an estimated population of 64 million
>> people. So France has 21.33% of the population the United States has. So
>> having a 3.9% french people visiting the web site
>> seems a bit huge to me. Of course, there's other countries where french
>> is an official language
>> (
>> ... hmmm, much more than I thought :) ).
>> And how many french people are interested in PostgreSQL ? I can't say
>> but if more than 50% of the french people interested in PostgreSQL are
>> visiting, we absolutely need a french translation on
>> this website.
>> I just hope my explanations were understandable.
> Sure, that's definitly an interesting discussion. If you're interested
> in doing some "real analysis" along that line, I'll be happy to give you
> access to view the statistics reports for, as long as
> you promise to report your findings to the list :)

OK, let's do it. Of course, I'll report what I found to the list.

>>> Now, looking at geographical distribution, it's quite different:
>>> United States        21.5%
>>> Germany             7.0%
>>> Brazil             6.5%
>>> Japan             4.6%
>>> Poland             4.1%
>>> France             4.0%
>>> United Kingdom         4.0%
>>> Adding up English speaking countries in the top list (US, UK, Canada and
>>> Australia), we have about 30%. Which clearly shows that a lot of people
>>> outside English speaking countries have their browsers set for English
>>> as their primary choice - just like me ;-)
>> Or they are just using default options. That's what they have when they
>> download an english Firefox or a beta release.
> Sure, but that works the other way around in IE. For example, even if I
> install *English* IE versions, it will select Swedish language by
> default simply because I said I wanted Swedish date/time style. While we
> have some more firefox users than IE, I think it pretty much evens out
> in the end, really.

I kind of agree with you. And people downloading a Firefox beta release 
are the kind of people who can read English, event if that's not their 
native language.

>>> [...]
>>> Regardless of this, given that two people have expressed interest in
>>> translating what's there now, I'll make sure that the translation
>>> continues to work as good or bad as it previously had. Then we can
>>> improve on that in the future, once we see actual needs from actual
>>> translators.
>> So we can start working on it ? that would be pretty cool :)
> Yes, but please only start working on the *templates* part. The .po
> files will likely be noticeably different once I commit my changes
> (almost there, but a few details to go), so there's not much point in
> starting with that yet.

OK, I begin right now.

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