Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode

From: David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode
Date: 2019-02-18 05:13:21
Message-ID: 457b1ea3-e8de-e394-4348-1a24f03d4aac@pgmasters.net
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On 2/16/19 5:57 AM, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2019-01-05 13:19:20 -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> * Peter Eisentraut (peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com) wrote:
>>> On 12/12/2018 05:31, Robert Haas wrote:
>>>> Most of the features I've been involved in removing have been
>>>> deprecated for 5+ years. The first release where this one was
>>>> deprecated was only 2 years ago. So it feels dramatically faster to
>>>> me than what I think we have typically done.
>>>
>>> I was just looking this up as well, and I find it too fast. The
>>> nonexclusive backups were introduced in 9.6. So I'd say that we could
>>> remove the exclusive ones when 9.5 goes EOL. (That would mean this
>>> patch could be submitted for PostgreSQL 13, since 9.5 will go out of
>>> support around the time PG13 would be released.)
>>
>> I don't agree with either the notion that we have to wait 5 years in
>> this case or that we've only had a good alternative to the exclusive
>> backup mode since 9.5 as we've had pg_basebackup since 9.1.
>
> I don't agree with a general 5 year deprecation window either. But it
> seems pretty clear that there's no majority for removing exclusive
> backups in v12. I think it'd be good to make the warning about its
> impending death more explicit, but otherwise mark this CF entry either
> as rejected or returned with feedback.

I think there is support for the patch in PG13 so I was planning to move
it out of the March CF to the first PG13 CF as soon as the app will
allow it, i.e., once there is only a single open CF.

Thanks,
--
-David
david(at)pgmasters(dot)net

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