Re: more anti-postgresql FUD

From: Ron Johnson <ron(dot)l(dot)johnson(at)cox(dot)net>
To: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: more anti-postgresql FUD
Date: 2006-10-12 00:33:49
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On 10/11/06 19:10, Geoffrey wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> On 10/11/06 14:48, Chris Browne wrote:
>>> ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca (Andrew Sullivan) writes:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:50:44PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Oh, and a cluster of IBM p570s would probably be enough to run a 20
>>> user system :-(. [Actually, that's probably not *entirely* fair; I
>>> once administered an R/3 system supporting ~30 users on a uniprocessor
>>> DEC Alpha with 256MB of RAM, which by modern standards is pretty
>>> pedestrian...]
>>
>> <GEEZER>
>> My first programming job was walloping COBOL on a 1.9 MIPS IBM 43xx
>> with only 6MB RAM. Supported *70* online users and had a
>> *relational* database (CA Datacom-DB).
>>
>> Of course, the FEPs, block-mode terminals and CICS were the crucial
>> difference.
>>
>> Damned shame that Unix killed that mentality, and that client-server
>> was usually implemented so poorly.
>> </GEEZER>
>
> You had that much memory? Used to run a time reporting system on a 3b2

Hey, I remember those.

A 3b2 was my first exposure to Unix. At the time I was a VMS
programmer who loved DCL, and was *not* impressed by Unix.

I *still* use VMS at work, and while DCL is really showing it's age
and while bash 3.1 on Linux (which I'm writing this from now) is
light-years better than sh, VMS is still a great "DP" operating system.

> 400, 4MB Ram, WE32100 10MHz processor, 1.1 MIPS. Flat file home grown
> database system that used indices in shared memory and semaphore
> communication between three continuously running processes.
>
> The application ran in pretty much all the AT&T factories at the time.

Flat files and minimal user interaction? Bah.

Now, if *one* machine ran a whole AT&T factory, that would be
impressive. Of course, VAX/VMS would do it, and no one would bat an
eyelash.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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