|From:||Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>|
|To:||Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>|
|Cc:||Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Anastasia Lubennikova <a(dot)lubennikova(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, Daniel Gustafsson <daniel(at)yesql(dot)se>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>|
|Subject:||Re: MultiXact\SLRU buffers configuration|
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> 29 окт. 2020 г., в 04:32, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> написал(а):
> It's not my intention to be mean or anything like that, but to me this
> means we don't really understand the problem we're trying to solve. Had
> we understood it, we should be able to construct a workload reproducing
> the issue ...
> I understand what the individual patches are doing, and maybe those
> changes are desirable in general. But without any benchmarks from a
> plausible workload I find it hard to convince myself that:
> (a) it actually will help with the issue you're observing on production
> (b) it's actually worth the extra complexity (e.g. the lwlock changes)
> I'm willing to invest some of my time into reviewing/testing this, but I
> think we badly need better insight into the issue, so that we can build
> a workload reproducing it. Perhaps collecting some perf profiles and a
> sample of the queries might help, but I assume you already tried that.
Thanks, Tomas! This totally makes sense.
Indeed, collecting queries did not help yet. We have loadtest environment equivalent to production (but with 10x less shards), copy of production workload queries. But the problem does not manifest there.
Why do I think the problem is in MultiXacts?
Here is a chart with number of wait events on each host
During the problem MultiXactOffsetControlLock and SLRURead dominate all other lock types. After primary switchover to another node SLRURead continued for a bit there, then disappeared.
Backtraces on standbys during the problem show that most of backends are sleeping in pg_sleep(1000L) and are not included into wait stats on these charts.
Currently I'm considering writing test that directly calls MultiXactIdExpand(), MultiXactIdCreate(), and GetMultiXactIdMembers() from an extension. How do you think, would benchmarks in such tests be meaningful?
Best regards, Andrey Borodin.
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