Re: Remove last traces of HPPA support

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Remove last traces of HPPA support
Date: 2023-10-20 21:46:59
Message-ID: 3994077.1697838419@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
> On 2023-10-20 15:59:42 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Hmm, are you saying there's more of port/atomics/ that could be
>> removed? What exactly?

> I was thinking we could remove the whole fallback path for atomic operations,
> but it's a bit less, because we likely don't want to mandate support for 64bit
> atomics yet.

Yeah. That'd be tantamount to desupporting 32-bit arches altogether,
I think. I'm not ready to go there yet.

> That'd still allow removing more than half of
> src/include/port/atomics/fallback.h and src/backend/port/atomics.c - and more
> if we finally decided to require a spinlock implementation.

In the wake of 1c72d82c2, it seems likely that requiring some kind of
spinlock implementation is not such a big lift. Certainly, a machine
without that hasn't been a fit target for production in a very long
time, so maybe we should just drop that semaphore-based emulation.

>> Do we really want to assume that all future architectures will have atomic
>> operations?

> Yes. Outside of the tiny microcontrollers, which obviously won't run postgres,
> I cannot see any future architecture not having support for atomic operations.

I'd like to refine what that means a bit more. Are we assuming that
a machine providing any of the gcc atomic intrinsics (of a given
width) will provide all of them? Or is there a specific subset that
we can emulate the rest on top of?

regards, tom lane

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