From: | Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee> |
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To: | Tim Perdue <tperdue(at)valinux(dot)com> |
Cc: | Benjamin Adida <ben(at)mit(dot)edu>, pgsql-hackers(at)hub(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Article on MySQL vs. Postgres |
Date: | 2000-07-05 15:13:02 |
Message-ID: | 3963507E.E817E7D9@tm.ee |
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Tim Perdue wrote:
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> Benjamin Adida wrote:
>
> ...useless rant about all MySQL users being stupid inept programmers
> deleted....
>
> > PHP folks have a bias, too: PHP was built with MySQL in mind, it even ships
> > with MySQL drivers (and not Postgres). PHP's mediocre connection pooling
> > limits Postgres performance.
>
> Well the point of this article is obviously in relation to PHP. Yes,
> Rasmus Lerdorf himself uses MySQL and I'm sure Jan would say he's a
> "wannabee", not a "real developer".
Rather he is probably a _web_ developer and not a _database_ developer, as
most developers with DB background abhor lack of transactions, as you have
surely noticed by now, and would not use MySQL fro R/W access ;)
> Yes I'm sure that PHP was designed to make Postgres look bad. All
> benchmarks are designed to make postgres look bad. All web designers
> build everything in just that special way that makes postgres look bad,
> and they all do it because they're inept and stupid,
Or just irresponsible.
That's how most websites grow -
at first no writes - MySQL is great (a filesystem with SQL interface
performance-wize)
then some writes in real time, when popularity grows bad things start to
happen.
then delayed writes a la Slashdot to keep the performance and integrity of
database.
> unlike the small crowd of postgres users.
That could be part of the problem ;)
SQL is a complex beast and a programmer experienced in procedural languages
takes some time to learn to use it effectively. Until then he just tries to
use his C/Pascal/java/whatever knowledge and simple selects - and this is
where MySQL excels.
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Hannu
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