Re: Re: pg_ctl default shutdown mode

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue(at)tpf(dot)co(dot)jp>
Cc: "Peter Eisentraut" <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, "PostgreSQL Development" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Re: pg_ctl default shutdown mode
Date: 2001-02-10 16:51:09
Message-ID: 3817.981823869@sss.pgh.pa.us
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"Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue(at)tpf(dot)co(dot)jp> writes:
>> From: Peter Eisentraut [mailto:peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net]
>> Just curious. I
>> just think that waiting by default and smart shutdown don't really mix
>> well.

> Current behavior prevents manual shutdown from cancelling
> running sessions carelessly.

Seems that pg_ctl is being made to serve two different purposes:
one, manual shutdown, and two, automated shutdown during system-wide
shutdown. In the second case, 'fast' shutdown is the appropriate thing,
but in the first case I think 'smart' shutdown is definitely the safer
and more appropriate default.

So, how to resolve that conflict? I think it's better for the script
default to cater to the manual-invocation case, because you're more
likely to forget to add the switch when you're entering the command by
hand. When pg_ctl is invoked from a system shutdown script, you only
have to get it right once, and then the script remembers for you ;-).

In short: I agree with Hiroshi on this one. Let's leave the script
default at 'smart' shutdown, and make it clear in the documentation
that "-mode fast" is the best way to invoke it from a system-shutdown
script.

regards, tom lane

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