Re: start of transaction (was: Re: [PERFORM] Help with count(*))

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com>
Cc: Will LaShell <will(at)lashell(dot)net>, Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee>, Christopher Browne <cbbrowne(at)acm(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: start of transaction (was: Re: [PERFORM] Help with count(*))
Date: 2003-11-17 00:08:24
Message-ID: 3798.1069027704@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Neil Conway <neilc(at)samurai(dot)com> writes:
> Hmmm... I agree this behavior isn't ideal, although I can see the case
> for viewing this as a mistake by the application developer: they are
> assuming that they know exactly when transactions begin, which is not
> a feature provided by their language interface.

Well, actually, it's a bug in the interface IMHO. But as I said in the
last thread, it's a fairly widespread bug. We've been taking the
position that the interface libraries should get fixed, and that's not
happening. It's probably time to look at a server-side fix.

> If we do change this, I think Dennis' idea of making now() always
> return the same value within a given transaction is interesting:

You mean the time of the first now() call? I thought that was an
interesting idea also, but it's probably not going to look so hot
when we complete the TODO item of adding access to
the start-of-current-statement time. Having start-of-transaction be
later than start-of-statement isn't gonna fly :-(. If we were willing
to abandon that TODO item then I'd be interested in defining now() as
Dennis suggested.

regards, tom lane

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