Re: Miscellaneous message fixes

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Álvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)kurilemu(dot)de>
Cc: Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous message fixes
Date: 2026-02-10 14:55:23
Message-ID: 3706800.1770735323@sss.pgh.pa.us
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=?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro?= Herrera <alvherre(at)kurilemu(dot)de> writes:
> On 2026-Feb-10, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote:
>> In extended_stats_funcs.c:
>>> errmsg("could not find extended statistics object \"%s\".\"%s\"",
>>> quote_identifier(nspname),
>>> quote_identifier(stxname)));
>>
>> Since quote_identifier() already adds quoting when needed, adding
>> "%s"."%s" in the format string results in double quoting. It would be
>> better to use %s.%s instead. I think quoting should be applied only
>> when necessary here. I'm not sure we should use
>> quote_qualified_identifier() instead.

> Hmm, in the vast majority of messages, the quotes are in the literal
> string, and we do not add quote_identifier(). This way, the names are
> always quoted, not just when they are funny identifiers; also the
> translator chooses the quoting style they want, which is not necessarily
> the same as the one used in English.

Yeah, this code is simply wrong. You should remove the
quote_identifier() calls and otherwise leave it as-is.

quote_identifier(), quote_qualified_identifier(), etc are meant for
building valid SQL strings. However, an error message is a totally
different animal. We decided years ago that the preferred style is
to wrap "..." around the unadorned identifier *in the error text*,
not by using quote_identifier(), so that translators could replace
the double-quote marks with appropriate marks for their language.
Is the English version 100% consistent in the presence of identifiers
containing double-quote marks? No. But we'd be making matters
worse not better for other languages if we did it differently.

This choice is documented at

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/error-style-guide.html#ERROR-STYLE-GUIDE-QUOTATION-MARKS

regards, tom lane

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