From: | Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: pg_stat_statements locking |
Date: | 2022-09-13 05:38:13 |
Message-ID: | 33CA7956-7A42-4731-B4AD-0372B5E9F2DB@yandex-team.ru |
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> On 12 Sep 2022, at 23:01, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>
> Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> writes:
>>> On 12 Sep 2022, at 18:18, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>> That being
>>> said I don't know if adding a timeout would be too expensive for the lwlock
>>> infrastructure.
>
> I want to object fiercely to loading down LWLock with anything like
> timeouts. It's supposed to be "lightweight". If we get away from
> that we're just going to find ourselves needing another lighter-weight
> lock mechanism.
Thanks for clarifying this out, Tom. I agree that spreading timeout-based algorithms is not a good thing. And when you have a hammer - everything seems like a nail, so it would be temping to use timeout here and there.
> On 12 Sep 2022, at 23:08, Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> That's what I was thinking, so it looks like a show-stopper for the proposed
> patch.
So, the only option to make things configurable is a switch for waiting\waitless locks.
And the other way is refactoring towards partitioned hashtable, namely dshash. But I don't see how partitioned locking can save us from a locking disaster. Problem is caused by reading all the pgss view colliding with reset() or GC. Both this operations deal with each partition - they will conflict anyway, with the same result. Time-consuming read of each partition will prevent exclusive lock by reset(), and queued exclusive lock will prevent any reads from hashtable.
Best regards, Andrey Borodin.
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