Re: New Copy Formats - avro/orc/parquet

From: Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Nicolas Paris <niparisco(at)gmail(dot)com>, Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: New Copy Formats - avro/orc/parquet
Date: 2018-02-10 17:21:37
Message-ID: 3274b427-fe3a-89fc-2302-52082bf817aa@2ndquadrant.com
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On 02/10/2018 04:30 PM, Nicolas Paris wrote:
>>> I d'found useful to be able to import/export from postgres to those modern data
>>> formats:
>>> - avro (c writer=https://avro.apache.org/docs/1.8.2/api/c/index.html)
>>> - parquet (c++ writer=https://github.com/apache/parquet-cpp)
>>> - orc (all writers=https://github.com/apache/orc)
>>>
>>> Something like :
>>> COPY table TO STDOUT ORC;
>>>
>>> Would be lovely.
>>>
>>> This would greatly enhance how postgres integrates in big-data ecosystem.
>>>
>>> Any thought ?
>>
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/static/sql-copy.html
>>
>> "PROGRAM
>>
>> A command to execute. In COPY FROM, the input is read from standard
>> output of the command, and in COPY TO, the output is written to the standard
>> input of the command.
>>
>> Note that the command is invoked by the shell, so if you need to pass
>> any arguments to shell command that come from an untrusted source, you must
>> be careful to strip or escape any special characters that might have a
>> special meaning for the shell. For security reasons, it is best to use a
>> fixed command string, or at least avoid passing any user input in it.
>> "
>>
>
> PROGRAM would involve overhead of transforming data from CSV or
> BINARY to AVRO for example.
>
> Here, I am talking about native format exports/imports for
> performance considerations.
>

That is true, but the question is how significant the overhead is. If
it's 50% then reducing it would make perfect sense. If it's 1% then no
one if going to be bothered by it.

Without these numbers it's hard to make any judgments.

regards

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Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com
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