Re: Including PL/PgSQL by default

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Greg Sabino Mullane <greg(at)turnstep(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Including PL/PgSQL by default
Date: 2008-02-22 02:59:50
Message-ID: 3143595BA2575D309F26FC42@ganymede.hub.org
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- --On Thursday, February 21, 2008 21:33:03 -0500 Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
wrote:

> Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> writes:
>> On Thursday 21 February 2008 11:36, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Would it satisfy people if plpgsql were in postgres, but neither
>>> template DB, after initdb?
>
>> No, the real-world use-case we're trying to satisfy is hosted and/or
>> locked-down installations where the developer doesn't have superuser access.
>> So putting it in "postgres" wouldn't help with that.
>
> That statement is content-free, Josh. Exactly what are you assuming
> this developer *does* have? For example, if he hasn't got createdb
> privilege, it will hardly matter to him whether any DBs other than
> "postgres" contain plpgsql. If he does have createdb, it's already
> possible by default for him to create trusted languages including
> plpgsql in his new DB. So it's still 100% unclear to me who we are
> catering to.

in my case, a client can createdb through a web interface, but can't load
plpgsql, so we try and remember to add it to the default template when we build
the server ...

... but, in that case, the interface should be extended to allow loading
available languages too ...

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