| From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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| To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Daniel Shelepanov <deniel1495(at)mail(dot)ru>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
| Subject: | Re: collect_corrupt_items_vacuum.patch |
| Date: | 2022-07-27 21:55:56 |
| Message-ID: | 3107109.1658958956@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> In reality, the oldest all-visible XID cannot move backward, but
> ComputeXidHorizons() lets it move backward, because it's intended for
> use by a caller who wants to mark pages all-visible, and it's only
> concerned with making sure that the value is old enough to be safe.
Right.
> And that's a problem for the way that pg_visibility is (mis-)using it.
> To say that another way, ComputeXidHorizons() is perfectly fine with
> returning a value that is older than the true answer, as long as it
> never returns a value that is newer than the new answer. pg_visibility
> wants the opposite. Here, a value that is newer than the true value
> can't do worse than hide corruption, which is sort of OK, but a value
> that's older than the true value can report corruption where none
> exists, which is very bad.
Maybe we need a different function for pg_visibility to call?
If we want ComputeXidHorizons to serve both these purposes, then it
has to always deliver exactly the right answer, which seems like
a definition that will be hard and expensive to achieve.
regards, tom lane
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