Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)

From: Antonin Houska <ah(at)cybertec(dot)at>
To: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>
Cc: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi(dot)haribabu(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3(at)lab(dot)ntt(dot)co(dot)jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar(dot)ahmad(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)
Date: 2019-07-11 13:48:49
Message-ID: 26476.1562852929@spoje.net
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Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com> wrote:

> Please see my other reply (and
> https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/Legacy/SP/nistspecialpublication800-38a.pdf
> appendix C as pointed out by Ryan downthread).

Thanks.

> At least in my mind, I trust a published specification from the
> nation-state level over random blogs or wikipedia. If we can find some
> equivalent published standards that contradict NIST we should discuss
> it, but for my money I would prefer to stick with the NIST recommended
> method to produce the IVs.

I don't think this as a problem of trusting A over B. Those blogs try to
explain the attacks in detail, while the NIST standard is just a set of
recommendations that does not (try to) provide technical details of comparable
depth.

Although I prefer understanding things in detail, I think it's o.k. to say in
documentation that "we use ... cipher because it complies to ... standard".

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Antonin Houska
Web: https://www.cybertec-postgresql.com

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