| From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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| To: | "Magnus Hagander" <mha(at)sollentuna(dot)net> |
| Cc: | "Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl(at)familyhealth(dot)com(dot)au>, "Patches" <pgsql-patches(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Show encoding in initdb messages |
| Date: | 2004-06-21 15:12:11 |
| Message-ID: | 2637.1087830731@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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"Magnus Hagander" <mha(at)sollentuna(dot)net> writes:
>>> The reason it will help with support is because newbies will go
>>> "SQL_ASCII! I don't want ascii!".
>>
>> No they won't. They will likely not even notice this message
>> in the sea of other messages they've never seen before; and
>> even if they do notice it, they will certainly not realize
>> that they don't want it.
> Another way would be to make -E a mandatory parameter, and remove the
> default completely. That way you have to make a conscious decision.
> Can't claim surprise then.
I don't think surprise is the problem; I think the problem is knowing
what setting will produce the result you want. Newbies are
fundamentally unlikely to have this knowledge :-(
What I personally wish we could do is eliminate database encoding as
a separate setting altogether, and drive it off the locale selection.
I don't know how to do that though.
regards, tom lane
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