From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Kevin Grittner <kevin(dot)grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov> |
Subject: | Re: [PATCH] V3: Idle in transaction cancellation |
Date: | 2010-12-16 18:24:50 |
Message-ID: | 24222.1292523890@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>>> Another thing I don't quite understand is - at what point does the
>>> protocol allow us to emit an error?
>> Basically, you can send an error in response to a query.
> What about some other message that's not a query?
There aren't any (I'm using a loose definition of "query" here --- any
client request counts).
>> You can only send one, and in that situation you probably want the
>> cancellation to be reported.
> What about an elog or ereport with severity < ERROR? Surely there
> must at least be provision for multiple non-error messages per
> transaction.
You can send NOTICEs freely, but downgrading an error to a notice is
probably not a great solution --- keep in mind that some clients just
discard those altogether.
>> FWIW, I'm not too worried about preserving the existing
>> recovery-conflict behavior, as I think the odds are at least ten to one
>> that that code is broken when you look closely enough. I do like the
>> idea that this patch would provide a better-thought-out framework for
>> handling the conflict case.
> We already have pg_terminate_backend() and pg_cancel_backend(). Are
> you imagining a general mechanism like pg_rollback_backend()?
No, not really, I'm just concerned about the fact that it's trying to
send a message while in DoingCommandRead state. FE/BE protocol
considerations aside, that's likely to break if using SSL, because who
knows where we've interrupted openssl. In fairness, the various
pre-existing FATAL-interrupt cases have that problem already, but I was
willing to live with it for things that don't happen during normal
operation.
regards, tom lane
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