| From: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net> |
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| To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Jacob Champion <jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh(dot)bapat(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl> |
| Subject: | Re: how to gate experimental features (SQL/PGQ) |
| Date: | 2026-01-15 17:05:44 |
| Message-ID: | 236ba4f3-ad45-42d0-afe6-ad92a4c75455@dunslane.net |
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On 2026-01-13 Tu 12:24 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Jacob Champion<jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> writes:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 7:17 AM Andres Freund<andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
>>> I don't even know how you could implement 3) realistically. We have zero
>>> infrastructure for making e.g. parser, keyword list etc change due to defines
>>> compile time.
>> Is that an architecturally unsolvable thing, or is it a simple matter
>> of programming? Would it be nice to have said infrastructure?
> You'd have to throw out flex and bison and build some sort of
> extensible parser. That has some attraction to me personally
> (I worked on such systems decades ago at HP), but it's fairly
> hard to justify the amount of effort that would be needed to
> get there. It might well be slower than a flex/bison parser,
> and/or have poorer detection of grammar inconsistencies, either
> of which would be bad for our usage.
Maybe, but maybe not. ISTR that gcc abandoned use of bison for their C
compiler a long time ago, and that gnat's Ada compiler was hand cut from
the get go.
SQL is a different kettle of fish, of course - it dwarfs C and Ada in
complexity.
Not saying I think this would be a good thing or not. I agree that the
effort required would be huge and the benefit might be modest, but it is
feasible IMHO.
cheers
andrew
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Andrew Dunstan
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